elspethdixon | Important question for the flist

If CLAMP were to make a manga/anime about the Avengers, which character(s) would end up losing an eye? (keeping in mind that Bucky/Winter Soldier already fulfills the need for a cyborg arm, and that Nick Fury probably doesn't count for angsty/slashy eye-loss purposes).

Poll #1928 If the Avengers were in a CLAMP manga

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Which major character would have their eyeball ripped out in the service of angst?

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Steve
3 (15.8%)

Tony
7 (36.8%)

Thor
3 (15.8%)

Hank
1 (5.3%)

Jan
1 (5.3%)

Clint
4 (21.1%)

Wanda
0 (0.0%)

Pietro
0 (0.0%)

Carol
0 (0.0%)

Simon
0 (0.0%)

Which supporting character would likewise lose an eye?

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Mockingbird
1 (5.6%)

Justice
1 (5.6%)

Firestar
0 (0.0%)

Sam Wilson
1 (5.6%)

The Black Widow
5 (27.8%)

Bucky/Winter Soldier
3 (16.7%)

Rhodey
2 (11.1%)

Pepper
2 (11.1%)

Sharon Carter
1 (5.6%)

Jarvis
2 (11.1%)

Which New Avengers character would... you know the drill

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Steve
3 (16.7%)

Tony
3 (16.7%)

Luke
2 (11.1%)

Spiderman
1 (5.6%)

Jessica (Jones)
1 (5.6%)

Jessica (Drew)
1 (5.6%)

Danny Rand
2 (11.1%)

The Sentry
0 (0.0%)

Strange
1 (5.6%)

Clint
3 (16.7%)

Wong
0 (0.0%)

The Night Nurse
1 (5.6%)

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only

No idea what CLAMP is about (and I really don't want to know), but losing an eye? Thor. In return, he gets wisdom and a raven. He also gets additional father issues (angst angst angsity angst).

Also, didn't Jarvis already lose an eye, due to an attack by the Masters of Evil? I have a clear mental image of a Buscema/Palmer Jarvis with an eyepatch.

Thor losing an eye would definately work on a mythic-resonance level, especially in current Thor canon where he's now kind of filling in for Odin (he already has the floppy hat and walking stick as Don Blake, at least in some issues).

It's not quite the same kind of angsty eye-loss that CLAMP (who are a Japanese writing team) do in their manga, though. CLAMP characters tend to lose their eyes in the service of warped/tragic slashy love or because they've been metaphorically raped by evil (like, if the Living Armor had ripped out one of Tony's eyes and replaced it with the Armor's eye, instead of giving him a cyborg heart). Or they swap an eyeball with someone and gain a soulbond.

So if Thor were a CLAMP manga, Thor wouldn't just lose an eye to gain wisdom and a raven and more daddy issues. He'd lose the eye and then Loki would take it and replace one of his own eyes with it and then the two of them would have a creepy, incestuous bond.

And this had made me realize that I would really love to see an anime about a terribly bastardized version of Norse mythology. Or a BBC/HBO miniseries about it.

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